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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.11 15:53:00 -
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I would say that it is only a vocal minority that complains about Hi Sec.
The following is about that vocal minority.
I would also say that the main reason many of them complain is because that they felt cheated because they were told that Null was the shiznit of all New Eden and they found that there isn't too many easy targets out there for them after awhile.
They found that they actually have to work to get on enough KMs to soothe their ego, because many of the players who are active out there are active out there because they have been able to survive to make it worth their while, so they don't get killed too often.
After a while they got bored. They then heard of this mistical place where players can play the game without too much interference from other players. Where they can mine and mission to their hearts content and actually enjoyed this.
This made the unhapply null dude sad, then he got angry. No one can enjoy this game if he can't. Besides, how can someone enjoy this PvP game by mainly doing PvE in this mistical somewhat safe place.
First the unhapply null dude tried to get CCP to change it so all the top Hi Sec stufff get moved to Low or Null. When that didn't happen the unhappy null dude decided if these Hi Sec "Carebears" won't come to them for the PvP he enjoys, then he will bring the PvP to them. That will change their ways.
Hence came the war on Hi Sec, until they come to their senses and go PvP in Null Sec so the unhappy null dude doen't have to work so hard to make his KB look so good.
Obviously it is far more complicated than this, but from my experiences in Null Alliances, Pirate Corps, and running missions myself; It is amazing how much of it can be boiled down to this uneasy truth.
Some players can not stand it when other players enjoy parts of this game that they do not, and will do all they can to destroy those other players enjoyment of the gameplay they chose to take part in. Seen it in the kindergarden sand box all too often and it is interesting how little things change. |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.12.11 16:09:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I'll just leave this trivial question here:
"How much ISK per hour is the "fair amount" that an hi seccer should be able to do?"
I am really interested in the answers.
Depends on how long one has been playing the game. The longer you have played, the more you should be able to make.
A Hi Sec Vet should be able to make more than a Null Sec noob. |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.12.11 16:35:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
The "unhappy nullsec guy" is another such lie. .
Maybe in your experiences, but I had to listen to such BS about the evils of the "Hi Sec carebear" from whinny Null Sec warriors on TS on many Alliance roams over the years.
I enjoy all parts of the game, Null Sec, Low Sec, and Hi Sec; but I can't stand it when people blame others for their lack of enjoyment of the game.
The whinny Null Sec Warrior is the worse offender in this regard at this time, in my opinion.
They are the ones who seem to want to force more players into Low and Null, by consistently trying to get content moved there from Hi Sec.
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.12.11 16:41:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
The "unhappy nullsec guy" is another such lie. .
Maybe in your experiences, but I had to listen to such BS about the evils of the "Hi Sec carebear" from whinny Null Sec warriors on TS on many Alliance roams over the years. I enjoy all parts of the game, Null Sec, Low Sec, and Hi Sec; but I can't stand it when people blame others for their lack of enjoyment of the game. The whinny Null Sec Warrior is the worse offender in this regard at this time, in my opinion. They are the ones who seem to want to force more players into Low and Null, by consistently trying to get content moved there from Hi Sec. The probably just you seeing what you want to see, rather than what is. Most null sec players I've known don't give a damn about anything other than the next fight or complex.
Yes, the vast majoirty of Null Sec players don't care. Just like the vast majority of Hi Sec players don't care. they find ways to work through the issues.
And in my post, I said it was a vocal minoity. |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.12.11 16:52:00 -
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HVAC Repairman wrote:
This is completely wrong.
One, you're pulling the persecution card. No one cares where you play.
Two, no one is forcing anyone anywhere. Providing an incentive to go elsewhere, yes. Balancing the risk and reward, yes. Magically transporting every hisec player to null, low, and wormhole space and closing all the stargates to hisec, no.
Three, no one is even saying that hisec needs to be nerfed. Null and Low's issues could theoretically be fixed by straight buffs. But right now, as it stands, the risk vs. reward ratio is hilariously stupid in every possible way.
One and Two
You are taking the points further than I implied.
Trying to make your point by exaggerating the point.
Three
You only have to read the forums to see where you are wrong. |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:10:00 -
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Kobal81 wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Kobal81 wrote:Lolz.........Tech moons, and I-Hubs w/ Military V nuff said Lolz infinitely scaling Level 4 missions under CONCORD's protection nuff said (I can play this game too) Not when you're not within titan bridge range of said opponent you can't.......
Heh, Titan bridges are fun, but I enjoy Blops bridges more for some reason.
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:14:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:
Don't go thinking ALL people who live in highsec are there because they hate risk.
This.
I move back and forth between Null Sec and Hi Sec gameplay almost always due to RL issues and obligations.
I enjoy Null a lot more, but it is nice to still be able to play the game I like even in Hi Sec, when I can, which isn't always when my in-game friends are playing. 
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2012.12.11 19:05:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:The important aspect is mentioned in your post. To **** people off. In game it isnt really an issue as people are busily playing their game but forum warrioring is an important part of eve, and the most important part of that is to try and upset lots of people apparently.
One very important thing to realise is this: Almost every single player in nullsec also has alts that never leave hisec, so there really arnt many pure nullsec players anyway. See all those afk miners? A fair percentage of tehm are alts of nullsec people. Same with mission runners, haulers, marketeers, manufacturers...
Why would we have a Hi Sec alt?
For the times you need isk, but your home systems are camped.
For the times you want to play the game, but in a more casual fashion and don't want to be bothered with camping the intel channels.
For the times RL makes it so Null Sec gameplay is too much an effort, but you still want to play the game in some manner.
To try a different aspect of the game when the gameplay you currently are doing becomes stale.
To maintain your personal logistics chain.
...and many other numerous reasons.
I haven't seen any stats, but it would be interesting to see how many active Hi Sec Characters are alts of "Other Sec" mains.
I would wager more than would admit it, and maybe even a significant majority are.
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.12.12 19:50:00 -
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Darenthul wrote:Was just thinking about something kinda related.
...where people could get a taste of the risk of low sec.
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Most players are already aware of the risk of Low Sec. The risks are always far greater than the rewards.
Low Sec is frequently more dangerous than most areas of Null Sec.
Not everyone who chooses to do things in Hi Sec are risk adverse all the time. I would say most have been to other areas of the game. |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.12.12 20:08:00 -
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^^ Nice example of "The Other" |
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